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		<title>By: zigfred</title>
		<link>http://www.stockmarket-investing.com/investment-vehicles-that-yields-15-return-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>zigfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 10:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhani: Honestly speaking I don&#039;t recommend mutual funds, except if it is an index fund. (A fund that mimics the Philippine stock exchange like the Phil equity PSE index fund and other index funds) Its an either/or proposition for me. I either learn all I can about value investing and studying the fundamentals of a company or I do nothing an park my money in an index fund. I believe those are the only two best options that are available if you want to invest intelligently in the stock market. By the way the Philequity index fund has about 11.31 % annual compounded return for the past 5 years. 

Yes, the remittance fees would be a burden to you. I suggest you accumulate your money and then invest it one time perhaps once or twice a year rather than sending money and getting charged exorbitant fees for remittance. By the way you could open your own stock market trading account at either BPI trade or Citiseconline. That is if you want to manage your portfolio personally. (Doing this is more rewarding) However I would like to stress out that if you do this you must learn all you can about value investing and learn to read the financial of a company. Read all you can about Warren Buffett&#039;s methods. If you have not time to learn all of these, then I suggest you park your money in an index fund. By the way this is a good time to invest in the market. The prices may not be dirt cheap but a lot of wonderful companies especially blue chip stocks can be bought at a fair prices.

Any way I will write more about index funds, mutual funds and how it compares to running your own portfolio in the near future. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhani: Honestly speaking I don&#8217;t recommend mutual funds, except if it is an index fund. (A fund that mimics the Philippine stock exchange like the Phil equity PSE index fund and other index funds) Its an either/or proposition for me. I either learn all I can about value investing and studying the fundamentals of a company or I do nothing an park my money in an index fund. I believe those are the only two best options that are available if you want to invest intelligently in the stock market. By the way the Philequity index fund has about 11.31 % annual compounded return for the past 5 years. </p>
<p>Yes, the remittance fees would be a burden to you. I suggest you accumulate your money and then invest it one time perhaps once or twice a year rather than sending money and getting charged exorbitant fees for remittance. By the way you could open your own stock market trading account at either BPI trade or Citiseconline. That is if you want to manage your portfolio personally. (Doing this is more rewarding) However I would like to stress out that if you do this you must learn all you can about value investing and learn to read the financial of a company. Read all you can about Warren Buffett&#8217;s methods. If you have not time to learn all of these, then I suggest you park your money in an index fund. By the way this is a good time to invest in the market. The prices may not be dirt cheap but a lot of wonderful companies especially blue chip stocks can be bought at a fair prices.</p>
<p>Any way I will write more about index funds, mutual funds and how it compares to running your own portfolio in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: rhani</title>
		<link>http://www.stockmarket-investing.com/investment-vehicles-that-yields-15-return-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>rhani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi =)

I&#039;ve already started investing on stocks, although I haven&#039;t tried buying on my own, I just use the EIP. I&#039;m still playing on the UI of citisec. Hopefully after a few more days/weeks of reading I&#039;d be confident enough to trade on my own.

I was looking into investing on mutual funds ( e.g. , and I find the exchange of currency a good way to leverage my capital. Although it added some cost on it like remittance fee. So if I would send money to my fund every month it would cost me additional of a few dollars. So I thought of doing it quarterly but much bigger deposit. Would that make any difference aside from saving a few bucks for avoiding the monthly remittance fee? I mean would it affect the value of my fund by doing quarterly instead of monthly depositing? What are the usual consequences? Thank you very much.

Regards,
Rhani</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi =)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already started investing on stocks, although I haven&#8217;t tried buying on my own, I just use the EIP. I&#8217;m still playing on the UI of citisec. Hopefully after a few more days/weeks of reading I&#8217;d be confident enough to trade on my own.</p>
<p>I was looking into investing on mutual funds ( e.g. , and I find the exchange of currency a good way to leverage my capital. Although it added some cost on it like remittance fee. So if I would send money to my fund every month it would cost me additional of a few dollars. So I thought of doing it quarterly but much bigger deposit. Would that make any difference aside from saving a few bucks for avoiding the monthly remittance fee? I mean would it affect the value of my fund by doing quarterly instead of monthly depositing? What are the usual consequences? Thank you very much.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Rhani</p>
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		<title>By: zigfred</title>
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		<dc:creator>zigfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 03:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rhani: Yep not everyone agrees on the &quot;value&quot; of the company. This partly explains the wild fluctuations of the stock market. The most important thing is that you make your own independent conclusion on arriving at the value of the company. Take to heart this wise Buffett saying &lt;strong&gt;&quot;You&#039;re neither right nor wrong because other people agree with you. You&#039;re right because your facts are right and your reasoning is right—and that&#039;s the only thing that makes you right. And if your facts and reasoning are right, you don&#039;t have to worry about anybody else&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rhani: Yep not everyone agrees on the &#8220;value&#8221; of the company. This partly explains the wild fluctuations of the stock market. The most important thing is that you make your own independent conclusion on arriving at the value of the company. Take to heart this wise Buffett saying <strong>&#8220;You&#8217;re neither right nor wrong because other people agree with you. You&#8217;re right because your facts are right and your reasoning is right—and that&#8217;s the only thing that makes you right. And if your facts and reasoning are right, you don&#8217;t have to worry about anybody else&#8221;</strong></p>
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		<title>By: rhani</title>
		<link>http://www.stockmarket-investing.com/investment-vehicles-that-yields-15-return-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>rhani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you, i&#039;ll look up those books. so i guess in the world of investing, it&#039;s the same in a sense that not everyone agrees on what other people/company says is a good investment =) because the way i&#039;ve read the explanation for EIP, it&#039;s like their saying it would really give you lots of benefits. i&#039;ll check more on &quot;cost averaging&quot; and &quot;index fund&quot;. thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you, i&#8217;ll look up those books. so i guess in the world of investing, it&#8217;s the same in a sense that not everyone agrees on what other people/company says is a good investment =) because the way i&#8217;ve read the explanation for EIP, it&#8217;s like their saying it would really give you lots of benefits. i&#8217;ll check more on &#8220;cost averaging&#8221; and &#8220;index fund&#8221;. thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: zigfred</title>
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		<dc:creator>zigfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rhani: Yep ! You should do your best to know more about the company that you are investing in. As Benjamin Graham puts it, &quot;Investing is most intelligent when it is most business like&quot; :-)

Another Peter Lynch great is &quot;One up on wall street.&quot; Also try reading &quot;Rule number one&quot; by Phil Town and any warren Buffett books. 

Citisec is a great online broker. Lots of information is offered to investors. They also do a lot of market education for free. (Free stock market investing seminars)

I have not tried EIP but based on the information I have read its about &quot;cost averaging.&quot; I am not really a fan of the cost averaging. If you must do &quot;cost averaging&quot; I believe it is best to do it through an &quot;index fund.&quot; As Warren Buffett says &quot;&lt;em&gt;“ . . . By periodically investing in an index fund, the know-nothing investor can actually outperform most investment professionals. . .” &lt;/em&gt; Anyway, more on this in a future post :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rhani: Yep ! You should do your best to know more about the company that you are investing in. As Benjamin Graham puts it, &#8220;Investing is most intelligent when it is most business like&#8221; <img src='http://www.stockmarket-investing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Another Peter Lynch great is &#8220;One up on wall street.&#8221; Also try reading &#8220;Rule number one&#8221; by Phil Town and any warren Buffett books. </p>
<p>Citisec is a great online broker. Lots of information is offered to investors. They also do a lot of market education for free. (Free stock market investing seminars)</p>
<p>I have not tried EIP but based on the information I have read its about &#8220;cost averaging.&#8221; I am not really a fan of the cost averaging. If you must do &#8220;cost averaging&#8221; I believe it is best to do it through an &#8220;index fund.&#8221; As Warren Buffett says &#8220;<em>“ . . . By periodically investing in an index fund, the know-nothing investor can actually outperform most investment professionals. . .” </em> Anyway, more on this in a future post <img src='http://www.stockmarket-investing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rhani</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you so much for the clear explanation! so i really have to dig in to the background of the company/stock, not just on the rates i see on the ticker =) i&#039;m currently reading your previous blogs and also the books you suggested like &quot;learn to earn&quot;, really great book.

i&#039;ve already sent my application on citiseconline, hopefully i get approve =) i&#039;ll try their EIP. could you give some inputs on that? is it worth it? i&#039;m planning to keep on funding thru EIP first while still acquiring enough knowledge for me to trade on my own aside from the EIP. is that a good move? thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you so much for the clear explanation! so i really have to dig in to the background of the company/stock, not just on the rates i see on the ticker =) i&#8217;m currently reading your previous blogs and also the books you suggested like &#8220;learn to earn&#8221;, really great book.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve already sent my application on citiseconline, hopefully i get approve =) i&#8217;ll try their EIP. could you give some inputs on that? is it worth it? i&#8217;m planning to keep on funding thru EIP first while still acquiring enough knowledge for me to trade on my own aside from the EIP. is that a good move? thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: zigfred</title>
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		<dc:creator>zigfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 05:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rhani: Analyzing a company means reading information about the company. This includes understanding how the company works, its products and getting to know the management. Of utmost importance is to study the company&#039;s financial. To do this you need to read a lot about the company, observe the company&#039;s product in action by observing how it is faring in the stores, or how it is providing service. (This is called &quot;Scuttle Butt method&quot; according to legendary investor, Philip Fisher I will talk more about this later) For example if you have stocks in GMA7 or ABS-CBN you might want to observe their programming, their ad loads, their ratings and the direction of the t.v industry etc.  We are now in the internet age so this is not something that is very hard to do. A lot of information about company can be found by the click of the finger. Talking to people within the company might also help. With regards to the company&#039;s financial, visit the company&#039;s website to download the annual reports. The Philippine stock Exchange website also contains the latest on company disclosures. Doing all of this ensures that you understand the company that you are investing into. After all buying stocks is buying a business. If you invest in something, you need to know what you are getting into. This is what intelligent investing is all about. People who buy stocks just because the charts says so, or they got a wild tip from somebody or they are speculating that the stock will go up is just plain speculating and gambling that&#039;s why a lot of people get burned in the stock market. 

As time goes by I will later on introduce the &quot;Intelligent Investor&#039;s tools&quot; in analyzing a company. This is a series of long post devoted to analyzing a company. Its not hard to do, and most of it is not even my ideas. Its been used by value investors throughout the years, I am just putting them together and making the more understandable to ordinary investors. Do drop by this blog from time to time to learn more. Thanks !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rhani: Analyzing a company means reading information about the company. This includes understanding how the company works, its products and getting to know the management. Of utmost importance is to study the company&#8217;s financial. To do this you need to read a lot about the company, observe the company&#8217;s product in action by observing how it is faring in the stores, or how it is providing service. (This is called &#8220;Scuttle Butt method&#8221; according to legendary investor, Philip Fisher I will talk more about this later) For example if you have stocks in GMA7 or ABS-CBN you might want to observe their programming, their ad loads, their ratings and the direction of the t.v industry etc.  We are now in the internet age so this is not something that is very hard to do. A lot of information about company can be found by the click of the finger. Talking to people within the company might also help. With regards to the company&#8217;s financial, visit the company&#8217;s website to download the annual reports. The Philippine stock Exchange website also contains the latest on company disclosures. Doing all of this ensures that you understand the company that you are investing into. After all buying stocks is buying a business. If you invest in something, you need to know what you are getting into. This is what intelligent investing is all about. People who buy stocks just because the charts says so, or they got a wild tip from somebody or they are speculating that the stock will go up is just plain speculating and gambling that&#8217;s why a lot of people get burned in the stock market. </p>
<p>As time goes by I will later on introduce the &#8220;Intelligent Investor&#8217;s tools&#8221; in analyzing a company. This is a series of long post devoted to analyzing a company. Its not hard to do, and most of it is not even my ideas. Its been used by value investors throughout the years, I am just putting them together and making the more understandable to ordinary investors. Do drop by this blog from time to time to learn more. Thanks !</p>
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		<title>By: rhani</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, it&#039;s me again =) you mentioned about &quot;analyzing a company&quot;, could you elaborate more on that? how do you really analyze a company? what do i need to look at? which portals do i need to check frequently? do i need to put some documentation of my own? etc. thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, it&#8217;s me again =) you mentioned about &#8220;analyzing a company&#8221;, could you elaborate more on that? how do you really analyze a company? what do i need to look at? which portals do i need to check frequently? do i need to put some documentation of my own? etc. thanks again!</p>
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